The Battle for the Countryside: Britain Should Rewild its Uplands c squared financial

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ลองนึกภาพถ้าแถบชนบทของอังกฤษได้รับอนุญาตให้กลายเป็นป่าอีกครั้ง ถ้าต้นไม้และพืชหายากสามารถงอกงามและบีเว่อร์ หมูป่าและนกอินทรีหางขาวสามารถกลับคืนสู่ระบบนิเวศได้ นั่นคือเป้าหมายของผู้รักธรรมชาติจำนวนมากขึ้นที่สนับสนุนแนวคิดในการสร้างพื้นที่ราบสูงของสหราชอาณาจักร เรามักคิดว่าที่ราบสูงเหล่านี้เป็น ‘ป่า’ และ ‘ธรรมชาติ’ แต่ที่จริงแล้ว ตามที่ผู้รวบรวมได้ชี้ให้เห็น พวกมันสร้างขึ้นโดยฝีมือมนุษย์ทั้งหมด ซึ่งเป็นผลมาจากการที่มนุษย์ปล่อยตัวเพื่อหลีกทางให้แกะหลายล้านตัว ซึ่งการเล็มหญ้าในช่วง 200 ปีที่ผ่านมาทำให้ผืนดินว่างเปล่า การทำฟาร์มแกะ ซึ่งครั้งหนึ่งเคยเป็นแหล่งความมั่งคั่งที่สำคัญของสหราชอาณาจักร ปัจจุบันส่วนใหญ่ไม่เป็นผลดีต่อเศรษฐกิจและต้องพึ่งพาเงินอุดหนุนหลายพันล้านปอนด์ แต่เมื่อมีการสร้างใหม่ขึ้นในสหราชอาณาจักรและในยุโรป การท่องเที่ยวที่เฟื่องฟูทำให้เศรษฐกิจในท้องถิ่นมีความยั่งยืนมากขึ้น เราต้องสร้างพื้นที่สำหรับธรรมชาติป่าในสถานที่ที่การทำฟาร์มไม่สมเหตุสมผล นั่นเป็นคำพูดที่โรแมนติก ฝ่ายตรงข้ามของการสร้างใหม่ ผู้คนก็มีความสำคัญเช่นกัน และแนวคิดที่ว่าเราควรละทิ้งวิถีชีวิตดั้งเดิมเพื่อประโยชน์ของบิลเบอร์รี่และหมาป่าป่าก็ทำให้สิ่งต่างๆ ออกมาไม่เป็นไปตามสัดส่วน กำจัดฟาร์มในพื้นที่สูง และคุณจะไม่เพียงทำลายวิถีชีวิตของชาวนา คนเลี้ยงแกะ และสัตวแพทย์เท่านั้น แต่ยังรวมถึงโรงเรียนในหมู่บ้าน ร้านค้า และผับที่เป็นหัวใจของชุมชนในชนบทด้วย ใช่ ฟาร์มแกะบนพื้นที่สูงได้รับเงินอุดหนุน แต่เกษตรกรรมประเภทอื่นๆ แทบทุกประเภทก็เช่นกัน เราต้องการขัดถูอาละวาดเพื่อแทนที่ฉากที่เงียบสงบของแกะกินหญ้าและลูกแกะที่เล่นการพนัน และแนะนำสัตว์อันตรายที่จะบุกรุกเข้าไปในเขตชานเมืองและหมู่บ้านของเราเร็วเกินไปหรือไม่? Intelligence Squared ได้รวบรวมวิทยากรสี่คนที่ใส่ใจในชนบทแต่ไม่เห็นด้วยอย่างสุดซึ้งว่าเราควรจะจัดการอย่างไร .

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32 comments

Finn Cross 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

15:35 "Farmers are experts in their own field" get it?

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Gary Higgins 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Could we 'Rewild' Glasgow?

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Ken Oz 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

of course they should reforest the uplands. so should all countries as much as possible.
China, Taiwan, Japan, Korea all learned this thousands of years ago, they lead the world.
Forest holds in erosion, slows down rain drainage so the rivers are better off, builds nutrients which trickle down to low ground. Birds love it. Native animals belong in it instead of hedgerows. It looks better.

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Eric Meece 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

The final vote was counted before the rebuttal, in which the support the motion side won the argument.

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MusicwithMatt 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Rory Stewart's argument in a nutshell:
"Listen to me I'm right. I'm a tory but I'm a good tory back from when the tories used to be pure and truthful, you remember? The tories under Boris are bad now, he's a bad tory. Look at George Monbiot he's like a bad tory, he's like Boris Johnson, you know what I'm saying?"

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michael eager 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

"Most importantly the pubs…", glad he's got his priorities right

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Stephanie Lawson 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

I’m afraid sentimental views about ‘bringing new life into the world’ (only to then slaughter it) don’t compare to the termination of the UK’s insect populations and unfolding collapse of eco-systems on a global scale. How will your farmed vegetables get pollinated with no insects? Get with it NFU

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peter dollins 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

I lived in Greece and there goats are even more destructive but sheep also play their part.

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Shubham Bhushan 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Lake District is just a bunch of rich people no wonder they elected Rory the Tory

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Shubham Bhushan 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Rory Stewart is just a nerd.

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Shubham Bhushan 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Tories are the real welfare queens

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Nick D 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

There is absolutely NO "better living thru chemistry" — petro-chems are endocrine disrupting — that's your hormone system, making you who you are!

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Nick D 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Oooh, there's that term, "temperate rainforests". You must restore those, so to restore nature's hydrology, meaning it'll boost the archipelago's fresh water stores. It'll help the Continent too. Also will help with carbon sequestration & chiefly with climate stabilization, needed most cuz we face climate chaos, not mamby-pamby mere climate change.

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suresh thota 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

More populated than india? Uk is 275/sqkm. India is 464.

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El Croc 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Halfway through and it's obvious that the division of upland vs lowland is intended to take away the importance of realising the uplands being brought back to productive use, increasing soils and tree coverage would add resilience to the whole picture incl. lowlands, restore aquifers etc.
Shameful that yet another strategy of divide and conquer to win an argument in favour of greed is so obvious in this 'debate' showpiece.

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El Croc 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

The model that works is the one that evolved before it got trashed and continues to be trashed elsewhere like in Romania.
Small villages drawing their livelihoods from surrounding common land.
This is impossible given the land ownership regimes and ridiculous cost of land to bring common land back again.
Remove the greed from the equations. Permaculture to replace factory farms, rewild the landscape between reconstructive permaculture bubbles. Leave room for us humans to live too in nature.

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Jdlc 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

I want more British rainforests

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Gruffygrazer 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

It's worth noting that Chalk Downland habitat harbours some of the greatest biodiversity found in the world, often described as European rainforest. Up to 40 species of plant in a single square metre, which cascade benefits to other fauna. The UK itself has around 50% of the worlds Chalk Grasslands. Since the continuous settlement of humans in the UK, the vast swathes of Chalk Grasslands present for most of this time, were created and maintained as a man-made, waste product of people farming the land extensively with sheep. Sheep were introduced to the UK by humans and their grazing behaviours, as an alpine grazing animal, created an artificial alpine environment for species rich Chalk Downland to occur

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MUSTASCH1O 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

I'd be for rewilding portions of the Highlands if the funding was provided on a voluntary basis. I'd also be for getting rid of all subsidies that prop up unproductive farms.

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Michael Kane 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Minette Batters “Land has to be managed by people you just can’t leave it be” what a load of rubbish.
Maybe she should go to Chernobyl and see how nature has returned in the space of 30 years.
Without people messing about with nature evolution will always be the organiser in the end.

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JAWL0C777 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

RoryStewart… A few belittle comments a name drop and an idolised view of industrial farming. Conservative is an app name for his ideology this is about a change.

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Dale Couch 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

I wonder if rewilding the uplands would involve removing the fell ponies or …are they now wild?

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Raves And curry 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

The argument against rewilding the uplands was essentially one driven entirely by emotion for the preservation of rearing sheep, drystone walls and green carpets as far as the eye can see. Nothing regarding the environmental and ecological benefits of upland farming practices to the public and biodiversity. The problem isn’t that people don’t want to buy expensive meat, it’s that the overwhelming majority can’t afford it. Instead we have the demand for cheap meat, which is ramping up soya production in Brazil, causing mass deforestation and further exacerbating the ecological and climate crises.

That’s not to mention the atrocity to biodiversity and public health that is grouse moor farming. Merely a service yuppies/bourgeois to go and bumble about shooting!

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BoggWeasel 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

I left the UK in the late 80's and live in upstate New York where there are hills, lakes, mountains. grassland and close to 12 million acres of woodlands. I didn't go back for over 10 years and when I did, I saw with new eyes and my impression of the countryside was that of one big cultivated garden, rows of commercial pine trees standing like soldiers and wild woods that covered maybe 10 acres, if that…..All very orderly, managed and bland. Some wildness would definitely be of benefit, not just for looks but ecologically too.

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Narendra nad reddy Chintalapudi 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Good job. I hope british scientists wont let the planet earth unsupportable for life.

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Surfnsound 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

She's a villain.

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Dawie Natral 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

lol the women goes on about Raptors, should we Also cull Woodpeckers that kill and eat baby birds, the women needs to think what she's saying, Black birds eat tadpoles should we cull those, to save frogs.

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Dawie Natral 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

To say theres more woodland today then there ever was ,is so untrue, I hate to bring up HS2, clearing so many ancient woodland ,Many Oaks over 300 yrs old, all for saving 20 minutes on travel time, when ever there's a new housing Estate, Woodland seems to be the first choice of being Trashed., What ever Happened to the Bristol new forest, that was just a Failed pipe Dream!

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Dawie Natral 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

The majority of sheep get exported in any case, very little is Actually eaten in the British isles. this is not great for the UK Carbon foot print!

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Joe Conlan 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Rory and Minette won me over which i am surprised by. The ideas of rewilding seem utopian and that's why they have such a strong emotional pull on us, doesn't mean it shouldn't happen but things should be proven on a micro scale first and in a way that works for people who actually manage these lands.

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Finnjon 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

This was mostly a good debate with interesting points. Since the only strong argument against rewilding uplands is that we will simply eat lamb from somewhere else, we should maybe discourage eating lamb (and other meat especially beef). In that case the uplands farmers will be forced to transition in any case.

Rory's argument that people would not want to visit the Lake District if there was more flora and fauna was bizarre.

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Cosmic 11/10/2021 - 5:01 Sáng

Rewilding is a no brainer!

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